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Dakota Thunder Custom Frames
Suggested Retail Price 2003 250 mm Rear Tire Frame Package
and Accessory Prices
Part # Description Retail
1. S-280 RH-238 Softail frame w/ swing arm, 1 hidden axle,
$3,495
DUMBASSBIKER.COM $3095 Right side
drive, 280 mm rear tire, 1 3/8 fat tube, DOM mild steel, 38 degree rake, 2
stretch, For EVO motor
2. S-250 RH-238 Softail frame w/ swing arm, 1 hidden axle,
$3,095
DUMBASSBIKER.COM PRICE $2595 Right
side drive, 230-250 mm rear tire, 1 3/8 fat tube, DOM mild steel, 38 degree
rake, 2 stretch, For EVO motor

3. S-250 LH-238 Softail frame w/ swing arm, 1 hidden axle,
$2,895
DUMBASSBIKER.COM PRICE $2495 Left
side drive, 230-250 mm rear tire, 1 3/8 fat tube, DOM mild steel, 38 degree
rake, 2 stretch, For EVO motor
4. S-250 RH-238 Rigid frame, 1 hidden axle, Right side drive,
$2,595

DUMBASSBIKER.COM PRICE
$2195 230-250 mm rear tire, 1 3/8 fat tube, DOM mild Steel, 38
degree rake, 2 stretch, for EVO motor
5. S-250 LH-238 Rigid frame, 1 hidden axle, Right side drive,
$2,395
DUMBASSBIKER.COM PRICE
$1995 230-250 mm rear tire, 1 3/8 fat tube, DOM mild Steel, 38
degree rake, 2 stretch, for EVO motor
6. OT-250 RH Oil tank for right side drive 250 frame $425
7. OT-250 LH Oil tank for right side drive 250 frame $395

8. Special Order Options Available: (PFCO) A. Powder Coat
Frame $600 (ST/R) B. Any rake/andy stretch-down tube and backbone
$200 (SDT) C. Single down tube- 1 1/2 or 1 5/8 $300 (SDTM) D. Single down
tube- 1 3/4" $400 (SDTSL) E. Single down tube- streamline tube $500 (BT15)
F. 1 1/2" tubing, in lieu of 1 3/8 $400 (S-280) G. 280 mm rear tire in lieu
of 250 mm $400
*Complete Frame Packages 1. SP 250 RH Right side drive, 250
frame, 1 hidden axle w/ billet $3695
DUMBASSBIKER.COM PRICE
$3295 Covers, CNC billet, neck, engine and trans. Mts.,
axle Plates, swing arm brackets, swing arm w/ axle, bolts, 1/2
“ Engine to primary spacer and oil tank, steel rock guard
2. SP 250 RH Right side drive, 250 frame, 1 hidden axle w/
billet $3495
DUMBASSBIKER.COM PRICE$3095 Covers, CNC billet, neck, engine and
trans. Mts., axle Plates, swing arm brackets, swing arm w/ axle, bolts, 1/2
Engine to primary spacer and oil tank, steel rock guard
PRICES DO NOT INCLUDE SHIPPING,
FRAMES TAKE 4-6 WEEKS FOR
SHIPPING.
THESE ARE SOME OF THE BEST FRAMES WE HAVE FOUND
FOR MORE INFORMATION AND PICTURES VISIT WWW.DAKOTATHUNDER.US
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ACCESSIORES UNLIMITED FRAMES ![]()
RIGID LSD FRAME SOFTAIL LSD DRIVE RIGID RSD FRAME
SALE PRICE $1095.00 SALE PRICE $1395.00 DAB PRICE $1425.95
WITH TRANSMISSION $1795.00 W/ TRANSMISSION $2250.00 W/TRANSMISSION $2600.00
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SOFTAIL CHOPPER RSD FRAME
DAB PRICE $1695.00
WITH TRANSMISSION $2795.00
ALL THESE FRAMES ARE 42" RAKE 6 UP, 3 OUT, ACCEPTS 250-300mmTIRE WITH A SPROCKET
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Frame Terms How to
Speak Intelligent Geometry
By Steve Shea Photography: Steve Bohn
As they say: "A building is only as good as its
foundation." If you start construction on a foundation that is not sturdy or is
poorly designed, you are asking for trouble. The same goes for motorcycles. What
is your riding style? Are you looking for form over function? Will this be a
daily rider or a bike that does parade duty? These, as well as other questions,
must be answered before an intelligent frame decision can be made.
As important as the driveline is for a motorcycle, your
first concern should be the frame.
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To get a better understanding of what makes a frame, a
frame, we went to Daytec Center, located in Hesperia, California, where owner
Phil Day brought out three popular frame styles -- a rigid, a Softail, and a
rubber mount. He then went through each design and explained the differences
between them.
At this point, an explanation of pertinent terms is in
order, see figure 1 for reference. A Softail-style frame is used here for
illustration purposes only.
PLEASE REFER TO THE IMAGE AT THE TOP FOR THE FOLLOWING
DEFINITIONS
A: Hidden axle adjusters: Mild steel plates,
machined to accept a rear axle, are adjusted by means of an Allen screw in front
of the plate.
B: Swingarm: The rear portion of the frame used to hold the rear wheel
in place. The swingarm is attached to the frame by means of the pivot axle. A
suspension system bolted between the frame and swingarm is used to cushion and
limit the movement of the swingarm.
C: Side Plates: Cold-rolled steel pieces are machined to accurately
hold the pivot axle. The plates (there are two of them) are welded to the
wishbone tubes on the top and on the bottom rail tubes on the bottom.
D: Pivot Axle: A solid steel, round stock fastens to the side plates
and, it provides a pivot point for the swingarm.
E: Transmission Plate: A machined steel plate to which the
transmission is bolted. This plate may be bolted to or welded to the frame.
F: Oil Tank/Oil Bag: A sheetmetal tank that holds oil for the engine's
lubrication system.
G: Center Post: A tube welded between the backbone and a crossbrace to
add rigidity to the frame.
H: Wish Bone Tubes: Tubes bent to create space for the seating area.
They are welded to the top tube in the front and the side plates in the rear.
I: Seat Clip: A small bracket is used to anchor the front of the seat.
J: Top Motor Mount Bracket: A heavy steel bracket welded to the bottom
of the backbone, to secure the motor.
K: Motor Mounting Plates: Two steel plates that allow the motor to be
bolted to both the front and center of the frame, using a standard engine bolt
pattern.
L: Neck Gusset: A flat steel piece is welded to the backbone, neck
stem, bottom rails, and neck gusset tube. The neck gusset is used to add
strength to this critical area of the frame by spreading the stress and load
over a large area.
M: Bottom Rails: Bottom rails (there are two of them) are welded to
the neck stem at the front and the side plates at the rear. The vertical
portions are sometimes referred to as the downtubes.
N: Forward Control Adaptors: Threaded lugs that are used for mounting
the forward controls.
O: Neck Gusset Tube: A frame strengthening member that ties the bottom
rails to the backbone.
P: Gas Tank Mounting Plate: A flat steel plate that allows the gas
tank to be secured to the frame.
Q: Neck Stem: A machined steel piece that is fit with bearings or
bearing cups that will be used to support the frontend.
S: Top Tube/Backbone: A frame member that fits the space between the
steering neck and the wishbone tubes.
Stretch and Rake:
Stretch is a word that gets tossed around quite a bit when it comes to custom
motorcycles. Although stretching a frame is a very simple concept, it is widely
misunderstood.
Simply stated, stretching a motorcycle is changing the length of the backbone
and bottom rails (the downtube portion of them) to move the steering neck to a
more desirable position.
This repositioning may be done to change the handling characteristics of the
motor-cycle, fit the frame to the rider, or more often than not, to give the
motorcycle a particular look, i.e. long and low or a high neck.
If a customer orders a frame with 4 inches of backbone stretch, the frame
builder will use a longer backbone and modified bottom rails.
There is a common misconception that there are pieces of tube welded into the
existing framerails -- this is not the case. It is easier and more precise to
calculate the new tube lengths and build the frame to its desired dimensions
from the start.
In the case of a 2-inch upward stretch, the
steering neck would be raised 2 inches from its stock position. Daytec's frame
jigs are designed with a 15-degree rail used to locate the steering neck. When
the shop raises the neck 2 inches, the measurement is taken along this 15-degree
angle. This means that 2 inches will need to be added to the bottom rails in
order to reach the new position of the steering neck.
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When adding backbone stretch of 2 inches, a
measurement is taken from the centerline of the rear axle (in the case of a
rigid) or the pivot axle (on a bike with a swingarm). The neck is then moved 2
inches away from and perpendicular to that centerline. Next, calculations are
made to determine the length and any bends that may be needed in the new
backbone and bottom rails. From there, the frame is welded up in a jig as usual.
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While we're discussing how to move the steering
neck, it would be appropriate to talk about rake angle. Rake is expressed in
degrees based on the measurement between the line perpendicular to the bottom
rails and the line extended through the axis of the steering neck. As this angle
is increased, steering response is slowed down and stability at higher speeds is
increased. Conversely, as neck rake is decreased, steering becomes more
responsive at lower speeds, but high speed stability is adversely effected.
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Trail
Trail is a measurement of the relationship between neck rake, fork length and
style, wheel diameter, and triple trees. This measurement is an important aspect
in the handling of a motorcycle. For the type of bikes that we feature on the
pages of HOT BIKE, a trail measurement between 2 and 4 inches is the norm.
To measure trail, start by holding a tape measure straight up and down from
the front axle to the floor. Put a mark on the floor at that point. Then place
the tape parallel to the steering axle, following the angle of the steering head
all the way down to the floor. Put a mark here, too. Now all you have to do is
measure the distance between the two marks, and you have your trail figure. It
should read between 2 and 4 inches. (Note: If your bike is equipped with rear
suspension, then have someone sit on the seat when you make these measurements,
in order to simulate actual riding conditions).
To measure trail, start by holding a tape measure
straight up and down from the front axle to the floor. Put a mark on the floor
at that point. Then place the tape parallel to the steering axle, following the
angle of the steering head all the way down to the floor. Put a mark here, too.
Now all you have to do is measure the distance between the two marks, and you
have your trail figure. It should read between 2 and 4 inches.
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Somewhere between 2 to 4 inches, the bike will
handle easily at both high and low speeds, flowing smoothly through curves
without swaying or wobbling. If you use a very fat rear tire, you should keep
the trail as close to 4 inches as possible. A slightly larger trail is also
practical for touring.
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If the trail is more than 4 inches, the bike will
handle sluggishly at high speeds. It will seem almost too steady. You will have
trouble balancing your bike at lower speeds or on winding roads. It will feel
generally sluggish and clumsy.
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One look at the rear of our rigid, and it's
obvious that there is no suspension present. Once the 250-series tire and wheel
is introduced to the rear axle, the air in the tire will be all the cushioning
available to the rider.
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The suspension for a Softail is designed to give
the appearance and lines of a rigid frame, while still affording the rider the
opportunity of a working suspension. A triangular swingarm is mated to the frame
via the solid pivot axle. Smoothing out the bumps are reverse-operation shock
absorbers that mount to links on the bottom front of the swingarm and under the
transmission mounting plate.
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More traditional rear suspension is used on this
rubber-mount frame. A beefy 1-1/2-inch single tube swingarm is connected at its
foremost point to the frame near the pivot axle. The rear of the swingarm is
united with the frame via a set of shocks that spans the gap that are created
between the shock towers (2) on the top and the shock mounting lugs (2) on the
swingarm.
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One very important aspect of any frame is how the
motor and transmission are mounted to it. A strong, solid connection between the
driveline and the frame ensures a predictable and dependable union of the two.
This rigid frame uses a 1/2-inch machined steel plate that is welded to the
frame to hold the transmission. The motor mounts are also welded to the frame
between the center tube and the downtubes. The top of the motor is then secured
to the top motor-mount bracket.
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In a Softail frame, the driveline mounting is
similar to the rigid. Various motor and transmission combinations are mounted to
the frame differently; Evos and Twin Cams are mounted in the same manner as the
rigid frame. In the case of the Twin Cam Balanced motor, the motor and
transmission are bolted directly together, while the transmission has a machined
bore that the pivot axle passes through, linking it to the frame for a strong
and stable connection.
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The rubber-mount frame (such as Dynas, FXRs,
FLHs, and others) uses a completely different method of securing the motor and
transmission. The pivot axle passes through the rear of the transmission and
uses rubber bushings to isolate it from the frame. The front of the transmission
is then bolted to the rear of the motor, and the front of the motor gets secured
to a rubber motor mount via a stabilizing link. Another stabilizing link
connects the top of the motor to the top motor-mount bracket. These links are
used to adjust the driveline's position in relation to the frame. This type of
mount provides the rider with a smooth ride with very little vibration.
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One of the first steps in frame production is
bending the tubing to the proper shape. Shown here is a computer-controlled,
hydraulically operated bender that produces consistent parts.
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The ends of the tubing must be machined to the
proper profile in order to fit tightly to the part it will be mated to.
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Once all of the tubing has been cut, bent, and
prepped with the mounts and brackets machined, it's time to load the frame jig
with the parts. The jig is precision-built from heavy steel in order to
accurately hold and locate all the parts so they can be welded. This jig is
partially loaded with components.
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MARTIN BROS TRENDKILL FRAME

Fit for a 280 tire with a belt or 300 tire with a chain, the Trendkill HT Rigid
Frame gives bikes the long, lean futuristic look that the award-winning Martin
Bros. are known for. Additionally, the right-side drive frame rolls on an
included 1" axle, has a 6" forward stretch, 1" upward stretch and boasts a low
42º or 47º rake. Also included with the frame are axle plates and fork stop
Product Numbers & Description:
MBTKHT42 42º Rake MBTKHT47 47º
Rake
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Prowler Halfmoon Chopper Frames


Prowler’s Halfmoon Chopper Frame is set up for right-side drive and fits tire
sizes from 240 to 250. They feature a shot-peened surface ready for paint,
swingarm with bearings, weld-on gas tank mounts, internal fork stops, built-in
neck bearing cups, splash guard, oil tank, integrated transmission plate and 1”
axle with rear axle adjusters and covers.
Specs: 4 " Up, 6 " Out, 38º
Rake
PR141HM Prowler Halfmoon Chopper Frame
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Stampede’s custom Prostreet Softail fits a 250 rear tire and can be ordered with
200-330 size swingarm. It has a 38º rake and 3” stretch, but
can also be modified to virtually any specifications—including left-side
or right-side formation. Stampede Frames have CNC-machined mounts and side
plates. They are completely fixture TIG welded for added strength. They feature:
1 1/2” frame rails, 1 3/4” backbone, and a 2” single downtube made of D.O.M
tubing. The swingarms come standard with hidden axle adjusters, flush-mount side
plates and axle housing. An internal forkstop plate is included. Center-fill,
top-mount oil bags are available. Options for the frame include a dropseat and
curved/radius downtube
STFRP Stampede 250 Prostreet Softail Frame Only
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